obama. during the foreign policy debate, in fact, there was an outright discussion about traditional means of warfare. this is some of the, you know, the newer versions. and i hesitate saying this, of course, with senator mccain because he jumped in on this, but the short of it is i want to say there are strongly held differing viewpoints. starting with your question, david was presenting one view on this. i think it needs to be set, there are differing views. we will also be headed toward the sequestration debate and discussion which is going to be a very significant one over the issue of our defense budget. but you have in this makes public opinion. and there is in the united states a reluctance in both candid it's and they know that americans are not looking to have books on the ground. having said that, i think that will gain made two important points, one of which is, let's look at afghanistan. right now there is a discussion about the status of forces agreement and what kind of presenc